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Saturday afternoon, this bloke's in
town doing his shopping.

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Suddenly he starts screaming and
shouting.

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"I am sick of people in this town
calling me a sheepshagger!"

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(Men chuckle) "Listen, I deliver
milk to the local school -

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nobody calls me the milk giver.

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I give clothes to the jumble sale -
nobody calls me the clothes giver.

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I help at the local community centre
- nobody calls me the community
worker.

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I shag one sheep..."

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It's brilliant, it's brilliant.
Yeah.

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I've just heard - we didn't get
anything off the Smithy tapes.

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This just came through. I've been
doing a bit of digging after a
tip-off.

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1979 - a Mr Edward Parker was
accused of molesting a boy in his
care

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when he ran a home for kids in
Manchester.

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Case dismissed. Lack of evidence.
Anthony Field.

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1986 - indecent assault on a minor.
Case dismissed.

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Same Mr Edward Parker again,

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this time running the Calloway
Centre in Cardiff, another home for
kids.

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Jason Baldwin. You're saying this
Edward Parker's the same...

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Could be Edward Parker-Jones.

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I've got the addresses of the two
kids. I'd be up in Manchester and
back by tonight.

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Manchester?
Yeah. Cross over to Cardiff.

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Nice to get something on
Parker-Jones, eh?

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Dig a bit of dirt.
Yeah. I'll do it, I'll go.

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You? I thought you'd wanna be here.

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No.

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Give me a chance to talk to Dalton.

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Er, Richard, can I have a word with
you?

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I don't bloody believe this. I do
all the legwork and she gets a day
away.

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Didn't have time this morning to do a
briefing, so let's do it now and then
crack on.

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We know that Jackson would have taken
about ten minutes

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from the Advice Centre to Vernon
Reynolds' flat and back.

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There are two possible routes.
Richard, get a team together, blanket
the area.

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Any news on Jackson?
No, we haven't found him yet.

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That's brilliant. Go to his old
hunting ground, stations. That's
where you picked him up first.

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We've got a good motive now for
Connie's murder and we all know that
it wasn't robbery.

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(Whispers)
What are you muttering about, Bill?

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I was just saying it's a pity about
the Smithy tapes.

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They're useless. Connie never named
anyone, guv, apart from Jackson.

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Just some clubs where he met his
clients.

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Er, yeah. No addresses as yet.

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But the clubs are Bowery Roof,

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Lola's, Judy's, and something that
sounded like Puddles.

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Poodles. It's called Poodles.

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The other two are gay bars.

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But the Bowery Roof is a very
exclusive place.

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Lots of drag acts, transsexuals,
transvestites.

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Most members are city types.
Professionals.

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You're a bit well-informed. I only
just got these.

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I'm a member.

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(Laughter)
Are you joking, Ray?

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That's not funny.
I know it isn't.

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I'm gay.

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(Laughter)

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You took your time in telling us. I
mean, I know it's your own private
business...

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I'll leave the team if that's what
you want. No, wait a minute. No. Sit
down.

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Which of those clubs do you think are
most likely to be frequented by...

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Judges, MPs?
..police officers?

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The Bowery.

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You well-known there?
No.

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It's very expensive.

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I've only been twice. But I do know
one thing.

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Asking questions with the others in
tow - never get past the front door
and word would leak.

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You'd never even get to the top
brass, let alone ask them questions.

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What about access to membership
lists?

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No chance.
Shit.

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Most of them use false names or
coded names.

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Even though what they're doing is
perfectly legal.

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But if they are going with underage
kids, that ups the ante even further
on covering up.

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So who they are would be really
hush-hush. I mean, they've really
got to protect themselves.

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One hint of a leak and they'll close
ranks.

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Unless...

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We could get the lads to drag up. Go
in that way.

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Nobody pays any attention to them.
Oh, yeah, right!

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I'd pay to see that.

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Go and get some lunch. Oh, and tell
Dalton to get his skates on, will
you?

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We've got a train to catch.
Sure.

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Thanks, Ray.

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Only one name off the Smithy tapes.

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But it's your man. It's Jackson.
I know. Lets you off the hook,
doesn't it?

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Just a joke.

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Look, Jack, it may not be the time to
talk about this,

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but it's gotta be obvious to you that
this case, it's opening right up.

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It's treading on Operation Contract's
heels.

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It's my honest opinion that we should
just cut our losses

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and concentrate on the murder
investigation

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because I'm getting information that
goes a whole lot deeper than a
clean-up of street kids.

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I think Colin Jenkins was murdered to
silence him

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because he was about to name the men
involved in a paedophile ring.

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And you think Parker-Jones is
involved.

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Well, he's being very helpful, very
co-operative.

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I don't have a shred of evidence to
link him with any paedophile ring,
but...

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the Advice Centre, along with a
number of other venues...

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And what about Jackson?

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I think that he murdered Colin
Jenkins.

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But...
But?

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It's uh... It's nothing.

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You'd better reel in Jackson, then.

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You have a very impressive career.

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Don't blow it.

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Charge Jackson...

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..and bury everything else.

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You've not said anything, Bill. What
do you think?

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What, about him? Don't worry me.

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We had one at Southampton Row. He
didn't last long.

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(Toilet flushes)

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See you in the pub, then.
Yeah.

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Is it true?
What? That I'm gay?

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I just don't believe in this day and
age everybody's making such a big
deal of it.

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What are you looking at me like that
for?

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I just don't understand.

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I thought I knew you.
You do.

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Why?
Are you asking me why I'm gay?

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It's the way I am. Always have been.

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Queer?

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Yeah.

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Queer.

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I'm gay. I don't apologise for it.

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Look at you.

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The other two will come out with
infantile, puerile cracks from now
on.

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I just don't believe it.

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Do you live with a bloke?
Do you?

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Of course I bloody don't.
What difference does it make?

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My private life is just that.

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I don't poke my nose in yours. What
gives you the right to ask about
mine?

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Because I work with you!

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As a matter of fact...I do live with
somebody.

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And I'm very happy...thank you.

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Listen, I was gay before I met you.

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Didn't start touching you up,

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or propositioning you,

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did I?

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I respect you. Why don't you respect
me?

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Now back off.

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Manchester. There's a coincidence.
Is there?

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It's just I was supposed to meet a
friend from there just now.

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Give you a lift, yeah? I'm in a car.

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Come on.

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Hello? It's Tennison.

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I'm at Euston on my way to
Manchester. Yeah, then Cardiff.

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Listen, I want a car followed. A dark
blue Mercedes. Old four-door saloon.

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Yeah, I'll get the number to you. The
suspect's name is James Jackson.

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OK? I want him tailed but not
apprehended.

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Get Otley and Hall on it.

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It's Larry Hall. Put me through to
Vice.

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We're outside Jackson's house now.

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Kathy, anything on the house in
Langley Road yet?

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Look, I will call you back as soon
as I've got anything, all right?

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Right.

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Shit.
What?

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Billy Matthews. Madam wants him
requestioned about the Connie video.

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It's all very well her saying arrest
him, but we've been doing that for
the past year.

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He's only had four court appearances
already.

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(Computer beeps)
(Tuts)

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Charing Cross Hospital. Emergency
Ward.

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Yes, got it. Edward Jones. Property
owned by an Edward Jones.

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First floor - Margaret Fuller.
Second...

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Basement - Abdul...unpronounceable.

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God, it's flatlets. Brilliant.

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Guess what?
What?

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Billy Matthews discharged himself an
hour after we left him there.

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Do you know where I can get my
batteries recharged?

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(Low conversation)

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Hello? Hello-o-o?

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Hello-o-o?
Guv.

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Just a minute. Hello? Can you hear
me?

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Hello?

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(Mutters) ..phone.

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Hello? Oh, hello. Listen, you can
gain entry even on suspicion that a
minor is being held there.

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Well, I'm reporting it, OK?

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It isn't about the bank, is it?

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Only Anthony's sure to be made
assistant manager

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and I just wondered...

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Sorry to keep you waiting. Only just
got in.

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Is the kettle on, Ma?
Yes, yes.

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When it whistles, I'll hear it, if
you want to go and listen to your
programme.

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Well, I...

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Sorry. I got cold feet as you were
late.

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Sorry about that.

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We don't need a warrant.

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We've reason to believe you're
holding a minor. You were seen
leaving Euston.

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Bullshit.

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I know my rights, now piss off.

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You've got no warrant. You're on
private property.

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I have, as a citizen, a right to
defend my property. Now piss off.

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Are you Mrs Margaret Fuller?
Yes.

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Is this the juvenile I'm supposed to
have prisoner?

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Anybody up there? This is the
police!

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Leave him alone. I just wanna see
the kid's all right.

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I'll break his arms.
She's up here.

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Get out of here! You're dead, Vera!

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And this is my er...

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My dad and my little sister.

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They were killed in a car crash when
I was five.

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And after that, Mum had a nervous
breakdown.

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That's why I was sent to the home.

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Anthony, can you tell me about the
court case?

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Look, I know how difficult it is.

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Really?

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I need to know about the man who ran
the home.

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You see, it's my belief that he's
still...

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At it?

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Mm.

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His um...

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His name was Edward Parker.

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My case never even got to court.

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(Boy coughs)
Jesus.

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I've called an ambulance. The other
kid's being taken in now.

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Vera wants to go.
I'm doing a club tonight.

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Can I go?

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I'm doing the cabaret.

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You won't get any sense out of him.
(coughs)

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He'll tell you anything just to stay
here. I'm OK, I'm OK.

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(Coughs)

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You're not OK, Billy, love. You're
not OK at all.

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(Coughs)

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Can I go?

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Where's that bloody ambulance?
They said there'd be a 15-minute
delay.

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Don't leave me.
It's all right, Billy, lad.

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He had a special nickname for me.

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He said that whenever he used that
special name it was a code.

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That was when he wanted me to go to
his room.

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And how long did this abuse go on
for... before you told anyone?

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Three years.

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There was no-one to tell.

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He always said that...if I told
anyone...

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..I would have to eat my own faeces.

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I got a letter from my mother.

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She said she was much better.

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So...I ran away.

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I went to the police station...

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and er...they called in a social
worker.

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A woman.

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I had to tell her. It was very
embarrassing.

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How old were you then?

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Eight, nearly nine.

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They took my statement and then
er...

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..a plain-clothes police officer
came into the room to question me.

239
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Anthony, I really appreciate you
telling us all this.

240
00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:58,960
Can you go on?

241
00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:03,480
Thank you.

242
00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,960
This um...police officer -

243
00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:10,960
I never knew his name -

244
00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,960
he er, he asked me if I...

245
00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,960
..if I knew what happened to little
boys that tell lies.

246
00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,000
And then I said I was not telling
lies.

247
00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,640
And he said er...

248
00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,160
..well, we will soon know.

249
00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,640
And um...

250
00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:40,960
..um...

251
00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,960
..he er...he undid my pants...

252
00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:45,960
and er...

253
00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:51,480
And he did it to me.

254
00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:58,960
He said that um...that if I told
anyone, I would go to prison.

255
00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,800
This police officer penetrated you?

256
00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:05,160
Mm.

257
00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,640
At the police station?
Mm-hm.

258
00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:11,960
Was anyone else present?

259
00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:20,960
So...

260
00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,960
I said that I was, that I had been,

261
00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,160
telling lies.

262
00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:30,960
Case dismissed.

263
00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:32,960
They er...they sent me back to the
home.

264
00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:38,000
I was there for another two years.

265
00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:46,800
Mm.

266
00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,960
I sincerely believe the man who
assaulted you...

267
00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,960
I'm not interested in what you
believe.

268
00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,960
I'm only interested in my life and
my career.

269
00:17:59,960 --> 00:18:03,960
Whatever happens to him now is no
longer my concern.

270
00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,960
I refuse to let him destroy my life.

271
00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:10,960
But you'll let him destroy others.
No. You let him.

272
00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:14,960
I don't care about anyone else.

273
00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,960
If there was a court case - if -

274
00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:23,960
then I'd be forced to relive what
that bastard did to me...again.

275
00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:27,960
I only agreed to see you on
condition that you didn't want me to
go to court.

276
00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,960
I won't testify.

277
00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:32,960
And you can't make me.

278
00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:42,960
So I told Halliday this morning.

279
00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:47,160
I said, "We should just put Operation
Contract quietly to bed."

280
00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,960
You worked on it for six months,
didn't you?

281
00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,160
I worked on it for six months.

282
00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,800
Doing surveillance on all the areas
we targeted. Right.

283
00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,160
On the night earmarked for the big
swoop, Friday,

284
00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,960
we got less than we would have done
on a wet Tuesday afternoon.

285
00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,960
Listen, did you target Edward
Parker-Jones?

286
00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:08,960
Why do you ask that?

287
00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:13,960
I know you sent those faxes to Otley
about the case. One in Manchester,
the other in Cardiff.

288
00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,640
Look, I'm going to be totally honest
with you.

289
00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:25,800
I Xeroxed these before I left, just
more or less to protect myself in
case there was any shit.

290
00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,480
Dig in to these. I think they go
away back.

291
00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:29,960
Maybe before me.

292
00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,160
Chiswick's the grand puppet master.

293
00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:36,960
Fancy a whisky upstairs?
I'd love one.

294
00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:39,960
Ah.
Um...

295
00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:44,960
Toothbrush, toothpaste and er... I
thought you might need that. It's
make-up remover.

296
00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,960
Aw. Thank you. That's very
thoughtful. How much do I owe you?

297
00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:49,480
Receipt's in the bag.

298
00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,960
This is Detective Chief Inspector
David Lyall.

299
00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:57,960
David, this is Brian Dalton.
Detective Inspector Dalton.

300
00:19:57,960 --> 00:19:59,960
Pleased to meet you.
Likewise.

301
00:19:59,960 --> 00:20:01,960
So, is your room OK?
Yeah, room's fine.

302
00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:05,480
Good. OK. Well, I'll see you
tomorrow. Early. OK?

303
00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,640
Night.
Yeah, OK.

304
00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:16,800
Didn't expect to stay the night.
There you go.

305
00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,000
Cheers.
Cheers.

306
00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:21,960
(Both sigh wearily)

307
00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:23,960
I hear very good things about you.

308
00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:27,800
You're not scared off anything.
Well, I am.

309
00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:29,960
There's gonna be lots of us demoted
in our rank

310
00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,000
and I know there's a superintendent
vacancy coming up, so...

311
00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,640
..you take these.

312
00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:40,960
I'm sorry, but I'm looking out for
my future.

313
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,960
This Sheehy inquiry has really put
the flutter around.

314
00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:48,960
The only ones safe will be those
with 30 years' experience and I
don't fancy being demoted.

315
00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,800
I worked hard enough for the DCI
rank as it is.

316
00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:52,960
So there was a leak.

317
00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:00,960
Tell me, what do you think of Bill
Otley?

318
00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:02,960
Good man.

319
00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:04,960
One of the old school. Hard worker.

320
00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,640
Did he tell you that?
About the leak? Yeah.

321
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,960
Well, I reckon I've done my favour.

322
00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:18,960
Good luck to you.
Thanks, David.

323
00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,960
Where is that vacancy?

324
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,960
It's one of the Amet areas.
Everybody can't go up but I'm going
to give it my best shot.

325
00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:32,960
Good night, love.

326
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,960
Good luck.
Thank you.

327
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,800
My wife's not gonna believe this.

328
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,960
I told her I was off duty.
It's that film, innit? Some Like It
Hot.

329
00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:49,960
Tony Curtis and...?

330
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,960
Jack Lemmon. It was dreadful. Silly
walks. They'd never have got away
with it.

331
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,160
Anybody could see they weren't
female.

332
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,960
That wasn't the point though. It was
a comedy.

333
00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,320
Well, for some, dear, being in drag
is the only time they feel right.

334
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,960
It is not funny at all...is it?

335
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:06,960
I wouldn't know.

336
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:19,960
How much did they set you back?
A lot.

337
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:28,960
Red's here now.

338
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,320
I've not got much time before I go
on, so let's make it snappy.

339
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,960
One at a time. I don't know if I can
get you in the back bar. It's jammed
in there.

340
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,960
Maybe you can work it yourselves?
..a great favourite!

341
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,800
A truly beautiful and talented act.

342
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:49,960
Please welcome Miss Vera Reynolds!

343
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,960
(Cheering and whistling)

344
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,960


345
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:56,960


346
00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,960


347
00:22:59,960 --> 00:23:01,960
Come on, let's mingle.

348
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,960


349
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,960


350
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,960


351
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,960


352
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:14,960


353
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,960
Are you crazy? Why? Why did you do
it? Because they asked me to.

354
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:23,960
I'm out of here. If you'd got any
sense, you'd leave too.

355
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,960
You've got another spot.
You do it.

356
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,640
I haven't done my own yet.
They stick out like sore thumbs.

357
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,960
They don't.
They're asking everyone bloody
questions!

358
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:35,960
I want to help. I thought you cared
about Connie. Somebody killed him.
You know it, I know it.

359
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,160
You might be able to stomach what
goes on...
Me?

360
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:42,960
You live with that slimebag, Mark
Lewis, not me. I've never been
involved in it all, never...

361
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:44,960
But you are involved, aren't you?

362
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,960
You lied to me. I covered up for
you, but all this stuff with the
kids and Jackson.

363
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:52,960
I'm shacking up at his place because
I've got nowhere else to go.

364
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,960
He won't leave me alone till this
blows over. Now you've got the cops
in here.

365
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,960
He'll think I done it. Not you, me.

366
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,960
Red, those two queens of yours...

367
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:03,960
You've got another spot, Vera.
I'll do it.

368
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:05,960
Christ.

369
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,960
Those two queens of yours - I've had
a complaint. They'll have to go.

370
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:10,960
All right. I'll come clean.

371
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,960
I don't know 'em.

372
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,960
They latched on to me at Lola's
club. They gave me a few quid to get
'em in.

373
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:18,960
It's the truth, I swear before God.

374
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,960
Now, can I have a bit of privacy? My
tits need readjusting.

375
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,000
Hey, Vera!

376
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,960
I bloody protected you, you slag!

377
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,960
And you bring the filth into my
house!

378
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,640
Why did you do that, then, Vera?
It wasn't me.

379
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,960
I swear before God, Jimmy, it wasn't
me. I wouldn't, would I?

380
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,960
What?
I need you.

381
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,960
Why would I tip off the law about
you?

382
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,960
Who is it to do with, then, eh?

383
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:54,960
Is it Red?

384
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:56,960
How much does he know?

385
00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:59,160
Eh?

386
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,320
Where's Red?

387
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,960
I don't know. He's not on tonight. He
had a cold.

388
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,960
He's staying at Mark Lewis's.

389
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,960
It's the truth, Jimmy, honestly.
That's how he knows everything.

390
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,960


391
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:09,960
(Mutters) Bloody thing.

392
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,960

(Glass shatters)

393
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,960
Where the bloody hell were you?
I was over there!

394
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,960
Why didn't you call out?
Have you got any handcuffs?

395
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,320
Oh, take a wild guess.

396
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,960
(Video playing on TV)
Skipper, it's about Billy Matthews.

397
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,960
Is he dead? No, no, no. He's got a
bronchial infection.

398
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:23,960
He's in Charing Cross Hospital. They
won't treat him cos he keeps
discharging himself.

399
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,960
He discharged himself last night and
he discharged himself on the 17th.

400
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,960
17th. The night Connie died, right?
Yeah.

401
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,960
Discharged himself. So he couldn't
have been at the centre.

402
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:36,960
Exactly. Yeah, yeah, lovely.

403
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,960
Parker-Jones is very specific about
that, Billy.

404
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,960
Alan Thorpe - he was too pissed to
remember.

405
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,960
We find those other two lads,
Jackson's screwed, right?

406
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,960
Fancy a hamburger?
No, no. I'm knackered.

407
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,960
Came off hours ago.
On your bike. See you tomorrow.

408
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:52,960
All right.

409
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,960
I reckon he got a backhander.

410
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,960
You know Billy Matthews? Well, when
he first come up he was, what, ten?

411
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:02,960
Connie nabbed Billy fast, didn't he?

412
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,960
Do you think Connie was paid for
finding young kids, then?

413
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,960
For the films, like.
They're all perverts.

414
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:10,960
Big posh houses, lot of dough. Dirty
bastards.

415
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,480
You scruffy buggers didn't go to posh
houses. ALL: Yeah.

416
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:23,800
Do you two want to drive around in
the panda, show me that posh house?
Tenner in it for you.

417
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,960
OK. Come on.

418
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:27,960
Come on.

419
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,960
Come on, this is the fifth road. Is
it here or what?

420
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,960
That's the one. Has it got stone
animals outside the gates?

421
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:46,960
Connie said they were lions.

422
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,960
Good lad. Remember anything else?

423
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,960
I think the lad's pulling your leg,
sarge.

424
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,960
This is Assistant Deputy
Commissioner Kennington's home.

425
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:55,960
Drive on.

426
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,480
You said Jason was known to the
locals. He's more than known.

427
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,960
He spends more time in the cells
than out.

428
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,960
He's a nice enough bloke when he's
sober, but he's a nightmare when
he's not.

429
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:13,960
He's been had up for assault, petty
crimes.

430
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,960
Has a lot of marital troubles.

431
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,000
She's always calling us in but then
withdraws the charges.

432
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,960
Well, the bad news isn't even worth
discussing.

433
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,960
Haskons and Lillie got dragged up.

434
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,960
What?
Don't even ask.

435
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,960
The good news is they brought in
Jackson.

436
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,960
Are you serious? They got dragged
up?

437
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,960
I said I don't wanna talk about it.

438
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,960
But there's another alibi down.
Driscoll.

439
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,960
He's admitted that he lied because
Jackson threatened to beat him up.
What number is it?

440
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,000
63. 5th floor.

441
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,800
You're from Liverpool, right?

442
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:50,960
Yeah.

443
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,320
And um...how old were you when you
first went into the home?

444
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,960
Which one?
The one run by Edward Parker-Jones.

445
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,320
Ten.

446
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,480
I was sent there from a foster home.

447
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,960
I got into a bit of thieving, so
they got shot of me.

448
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,960
Are you prepared to act as a witness
for the prosecution?

449
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:12,960
Sure.

450
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:15,960
Thanks.

451
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,960
Can you tell me when the sexual abuse
started?

452
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:28,960
It was um...the second or third day
I was there.

453
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,160
Parker just called us into his
office and um...

454
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:35,960
That was it. It started then.

455
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:43,960
Like you could do or say anything
about it. It was like he was...a law
unto himself, you know.

456
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,960
And it wasn't just me. He was having
us all.

457
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,960
He'd give you a certain amount of
fags.

458
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,960
Like, it was five for a blow job.

459
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:58,160
You knew when one of the lads had
gone all the way with him - they was
flush with fags.

460
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,960
Have you got one by the way?
Oh, yeah, sure.

461
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,960
Here.

462
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:07,480
Keep the pack. I'm trying to give up.

463
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,960
What made you report him?

464
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,320
Short-changed us on some fags,
didn't he?

465
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,480
So I thought..."Screw him."

466
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,960
Went to the social worker. (Mutters)
Bitch.

467
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,800
She fancied him, you know. He used
to get it off with women as well.

468
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,960
Anyway, she went on and on at me.
Did I know what I was saying? What
it meant?

469
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,960
I said, "Yeah, I know what it means
to me."

470
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,960
If you don't do something about it,
I'm going to the cops.

471
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:47,960
And how old were you then?
Dunno. 12, 13.

472
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,640
And did you go to the cops?

473
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,640
Yeah.

474
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,960
Well, he wouldn't leave us alone,
would he?

475
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,960
She wasn't going to do anything
about it, so...

476
00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,960
I went to the police station.

477
00:31:59,960 --> 00:32:01,960
Made a statement.

478
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:07,960
They were all running round, like,
asking all these questions and then
er...

479
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,960
..the doctor examined me and...

480
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,960
Er, yeah, and then um...

481
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,960
This copper gets me into his office
and then...

482
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,960
And what happened then, Jason?

483
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,000
Um...

484
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,960
He said that...if I said I was
lying...

485
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,960
..he'd make it cushy for me, give me
money, cigarettes, things like that.

486
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,960
Said they'd move me somewhere nice.

487
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,320
Do you remember the police officer's
name?

488
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,000
Was he in uniform?

489
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,320
He was a friend of Parker's. They
worked it together.

490
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,480
So anyway, they sent me back, never
got round to moving me.

491
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,960
And um...

492
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:09,960
I became a very heavy smoker.

493
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,480
Do you remember the doctor's name?
The one that examined you.

494
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,320
That's not going to help you much.
He died of cancer.

495
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,960
Nice fella.

496
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,960
His name was something...Ellis.

497
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,960
Well, that's it for now, I think.
Thanks very much.

498
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,960
So, what are you doing now, Jason?
Have you got a job?

499
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:43,960
No. No qualifications.

500
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:45,960
Five-year-old kid reads better than
I do.

501
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,960
I do odd jobs around the place. Fix
up cars.

502
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:53,960
I get drunk.

503
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,960
Like if...

504
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,960
..sometimes I get a bit angry.

505
00:33:59,960 --> 00:34:01,960
And then you get into trouble.

506
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:04,960
Have you ever told anyone else about
this?

507
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,480
There's no point, is there? You just
have to live with it.

508
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,960
I promise you we will do everything
we can to put this man away.

509
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,960
I promise you that, Jason.

510
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:17,960
You haven't got him, have you?

511
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,960
Not yet, no.

512
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,960
Well, goodbye, then, Jason. We'll be
in touch.

513
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:45,960
You know, one night at the home,

514
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:48,960
we was watching this documentary.

515
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:53,960
It was a Nazi thing. And this fella
who ran the concentration camp...
You know what they are?

516
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,960
Mm. Well, his name was the Angel of
Death.

517
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,960
And after the war he escaped, right?

518
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:03,000
He was never hanged. Nobody arrested
him. Nobody even brought him to
trial.

519
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,160
That's like Parker, isn't it?

520
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:09,960
He did me for eight years. He did
everyone in his care.

521
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,960
You know what we used to call him?
We called him the "Keeper of Souls".

522
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,960
Jason, look, go back upstairs.
There's glass around. You'll hurt
yourself.

523
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,960
You want to see what the Keeper did
to me?

524
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,480
The man who did this will pay for it,
I promise you, Jason.

525
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,640
Look, I promise you.

526
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,960
You'll just make your train.

527
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,800
Bronwen, can you do a crosscheck on
this for me, please?

528
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,960
Check with social services.
OK.

529
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,960
He'll live.

530
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,960
Broken leg and hip bone. He's OK.

531
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,960
His wife and kid. I sent a cab for
them. OK.

532
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,960
You know, Anthony and Jason? That's
too much of a coincidence.

533
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,960
I mean, if Edward Parker-Jones moved
on, maybe so did that police officer.

534
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,960
Any developments on Jackson?

535
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,800
What?

536
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,960
You said he'd been picked up.
Oh, no.

537
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:56,960
What about you?

538
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,960
Heard from that hospital yet?

539
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:02,960
No, not yet.

540
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,960
Still waiting.
Oh? How long does it take?

541
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,320
I don't know.

542
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,960
(Sighs) Don't know.

543
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:19,960
What?

544
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,960
Well, when are you gonna come clean,
Brian?

545
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,960
What do you mean?

546
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:29,960
When are you going to tell me what a
high-flyer like you is doing attached
to this investigation?

547
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:36,320
I mean, look at you. You're
university educated. You're Fraud
Squad.

548
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:40,960
You're hand-in-glove with Chiswick. I
know you report back to him, for
God's sake.

549
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,960
Come on, you're my mate. You can tell
me what's going on.

550
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,960
I have to report back to Commander
Chiswick.

551
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:57,960
If, and only if, your investigation
crosses another investigation.

552
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,960
Very good.

553
00:37:59,960 --> 00:38:04,960
All right, you've started now. So
what investigation might that be?

554
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:09,320
It's about the blackmail of an
assistant deputy commissioner.

555
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,960
He was, or had been, on enforced
leave for eight months.

556
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,960
Six months previous to the blackmail
threats.

557
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:20,960
One of the most senior officers ever
to be subject to disciplinary
procedures.

558
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,960
The matter was passed to the Home
Office from Scotland Yard.

559
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:24,960
Who the hell is it?

560
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,960
Assistant Deputy Commissioner John
Kennington.

561
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:35,960
What was going on before the
blackmail?

562
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:40,480
Eight months enforced leave? Long
time. Must have been something big.

563
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,960
There's possible involvement with a
paedophile ring.

564
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,960
Jason Baldwin's social worker.

565
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,000
Margaret Speel. She's now based
in...

566
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,960
London. Thank you very much.

567
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:57,960
Kennington.

568
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,960
(Knocks at door)

569
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,960
Would you like some coffee?
No, thank you.

570
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,960
So, what can I do for you, Chief
Inspector?

571
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,000
Were you at one time working at
Cardiff?

572
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,960
Yes. And in Liverpool. I also worked
in Birmingham.

573
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,960
Was Edward Parker-Jones also working
in Liverpool and Birmingham?

574
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,960
No. Well, we can be thankful for
that, can't we?

575
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,960
Do you know Anthony Field?

576
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,960
No? Well, what about Jason Baldwin?
He was one time a resident...

577
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,960
Yes, yes, yes. I remember Jason.

578
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,960
Do you have a close relationship with
Edward Parker-Jones?

579
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:42,960
I don't think that's any of your
business.

580
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,000
Yes, Margaret. It's very much my
business.

581
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:49,000
Jason tried to kill himself right in
front of me this afternoon.

582
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:53,320
He's prepared to make a statement
that when he was in the care of
Edward Parker-Jones,

583
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,960
he was sexually abused for a period
of six years

584
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,960
and that you, at that time, were his
social worker.

585
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,960
You were Jason Baldwin's social
worker, weren't you, Margaret?

586
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,960
You were Jason's social worker.

587
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:18,960
Yes.

588
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,160
Are you aware of these allegations?

589
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,960
Were you aware of them when you were
working in Cardiff?

590
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,960
Oh...Jason was always telling lies.

591
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:31,960
He was a compulsive liar.

592
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:35,960
Ten-year-old boy, Margaret.

593
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,960
You refused to believe him and he had
six more years of abuse.

594
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:41,960
Oh, God.

595
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:44,960
This is not true.

596
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:51,480
If I'd have believed for one
moment...
Oh, you believe it, Margaret.

597
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,160
So, do you know Colin Jenkins?

598
00:40:59,960 --> 00:41:02,960
No.

599
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:04,960
I was telling the truth. I...

600
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,800
I swear I didn't even come here till
18 months ago.

601
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:13,960
Edward contacted me.

602
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,960
He even tried to renew our
relationship.

603
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:23,960
Are you sure?

604
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:28,960
I mean, these young boys, they're
always making up stories. I remember
Jason...

605
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,960
Do you recall a doctor? Did a doctor
examine Jason Baldwin?

606
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:34,960
Yes, of course he was examined.

607
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:38,960
Do you remember a police officer?

608
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,960
One who was close with Edward
Parker-Jones?

609
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:45,960
You mean John Kennington.

610
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,960
Yes, yeah, it could be John
Kennington.

611
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:55,960
Do you remember if he was plain
clothes or in uniform? What rank was
he?

612
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:58,960
Um...

613
00:41:59,960 --> 00:42:02,640
I think he was a superintendent.

614
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,960
I never saw him in uniform.

615
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:09,160
Do you know if this John Kennington
is still in touch with Edward
Parker-Jones?

616
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,960
Er, yes, I think so.

617
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:17,960
(Door opens)

618
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:22,960
If there anyone in this building who
knows where Detective Chief Inspector
Tennison is?

619
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:27,320
On her way back from Cardiff.
Expecting her any moment now, boss.

620
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:32,960
And you two, as far as I am
concerned, behaved in an utterly
farcical manner.

621
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,960
One which would, if ever it were made
public,

622
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,960
put not only myself but this entire
department in jeopardy.

623
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,640
In your office.

624
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,320
Just tell me, in God's name, what
possessed you to do it?

625
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,960
We brought Jackson in, sir.
(Irritated tapping)

626
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:48,960
Sorry. I'll be right with you.

627
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:50,960
DS Haskons, DC Lillie.

628
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,960
You will return to Southampton Row as
from tomorrow evening.

629
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,960
DI Ray Hebdon will leave...today.

630
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:00,960
Hey!

631
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:04,160
Get that crap down.

632
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,160
Naughty boys.

633
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:13,960
(Laughter)

634
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:36,960
Well, this must be worth a bundle.
Kennington didn't buy this in his
wages.

635
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:38,960
Happens to be my wife's.

636
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,960
Oh! I'm sorry, sir.

637
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,960
I'm Detective Chief Inspector Jane
Tennison.

638
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,960
This is Detective Inspector Dalton,
that's Brian Dalton.

639
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:50,960
So what seems to be the problem?

640
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:54,480
We're making inquiries into the death
of a young boy. Colin Jenkins.

641
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,640
Did you know him, sir?

642
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,960
Do you know a James Jackson?

643
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:02,960
No.

644
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:04,960
Anthony Field?
No.

645
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:06,960
Jason Baldwin?

646
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:08,960
No.

647
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,960
What er...what are you doing here,
Chief Inspector?

648
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:14,960
Do you know Edward Parker-Jones?

649
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:18,960
Uh...

650
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,000
No, I can't say that I do.

651
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:27,960
You were at one time stationed in
Manchester, I believe. And before
that you were in Cardiff.

652
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:29,960
Is that correct? Yeah.

653
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,960
Did you at any time come across a
social worker called Margaret Speel?

654
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,960
No, I'm sorry, I don't recall the
name.

655
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:44,960
Just before your recent resignation,
sir, you were about to instigate
charges.

656
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,800
Could you tell me what they were?

657
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,960
What exactly is this inquiry about,
Chief Inspector?

658
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,960
Please just answer the question, sir.

659
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,960
I have no inclination to answer
anything else.

660
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:57,960
And I'd appreciate it if you would
leave.

661
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:02,800
Maybe you would recollect Colin
Jenkins. Sometimes he was called
Connie.

662
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,960
He would have been about 15 years old
when you knew him.

663
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,960
He was about my height. He had red
hair.

664
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:10,960
He was a practising homosexual.

665
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,000
Will you both leave - now?

666
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:18,960
It's just that I notice that you have
pictures of young boys here.

667
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:20,960
Those are my sons.

668
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,000
Will you please leave my house?
Was Colin Jenkins blackmailing you?

669
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,960
Edward Parker-Jones putting pressure
on you? Which of them was
blackmailing you?

670
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,960
Were you aware that Colin Jenkins was
selling his story to the papers?

671
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,960
I'm sorry. John?
Mrs Kennington.

672
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:36,960
I am... Please.

673
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,960
Mrs Kennington, your husband was
answering some questions.

674
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:45,000
I'm investigating the death of a
young boy, just 17 years old. He was
a rent boy.

675
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,960
His name was Colin Jenkins. Maybe you
read about it.

676
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,960
Hey, Mike.

677
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:20,960
Do you fancy a drink?

678
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,960
Sorry, I'm late as it is.

679
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:27,800
Nothing wrong, is there? No, no. I
just wanted to have a word with you.

680
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,960
Um...what do you know about John
Kennington?

681
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,960
Well, he just got his golden
handshake. Why?

682
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:38,160
Is he a homosexual?

683
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:39,960
I don't know.

684
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:41,960
Why do you ask?

685
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,960
I think he might be involved in this
murder case that I'm on.

686
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:48,960
Murder? I thought you were on Vice?
It's the murder of a rent boy.

687
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:51,960
Er, sorry, Jane, there's nothing I
can tell you.

688
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,960
Mike, Mike. God, they're just...

689
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:58,000
They're young kids. 12, 13 years old.

690
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,960
They're the same age as your kids,
for Christ's sake.

691
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,960
Do I have to spell it out for you?
Yes, you do.

692
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,960
If you start digging the dirt on
John Kennington, it'll be a waste of
time.

693
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,960
He may no longer be a big fish but
he sure as hell has got lots of
friends who are.

694
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,960
The whisper'll get out, he'll drop
the word and you won't get near
them.

695
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:20,960
And you won't help the kids. And the
punters will still be there.

696
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:24,960
They'll all still be there out on
the street. Back off this one, Jane.

697
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:26,960
Kennington's out of the force.

698
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:31,320
Ignore it. That is the best... the
only advice I can give you.

699
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,960
Well, thank you for your advice.

700
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:37,960
Oh, incidentally... Er...Mike?

701
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:42,640
You know there's that superintendency
up for grabs - Amet.

702
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:44,960
Do you happen to know which area that
is?

703
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:47,960
(Mouths)

704
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:49,960
You're going to become a player, are
you?

705
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:52,960
Good night.
Night.

706
00:47:59,960 --> 00:48:02,960
Can I just say something? Um...

707
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:04,960
Well, apologise, really.

708
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,960
I just wanted you to know I didn't
really have much say in the matter

709
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:10,960
and er...

710
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:16,960
Um... I'm sorry. And...

711
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:20,960
I-I don't know where I am.

712
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,000
I'm in some kind of limbo.

713
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,800
I can't sleep!

714
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:30,960
My... My girlfriend...

715
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:35,960
I haven't told her.

716
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,000
I'm too scared to have sex with her.

717
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:41,960
It's just...

718
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,960
This whole thing, kind of, you know,
hanging over us.

719
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,320
Listen, anyone would feel like that.

720
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:50,960
What if I've got Aids?

721
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,320
I'm sorry. Sorry.

722
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,480
Shit. Sorry. Sorry.

723
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:02,800
(Softly) Hey.

724
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:05,960
(Sobs)

725
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:07,800
It's all right.

726
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,960
Listen, I think you should talk to
someone. Yeah.

727
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,960
I mean, someone who understands.
Yeah.

728
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:15,960
You should go with your girlfriend.
OK.

729
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:20,960
I've got some contact numbers. I'll
give you the numbers as soon as
possible, OK?

730
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:22,960
Yeah. Thank you.

731
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:25,960
(Sniffs) Thanks a lot.

732
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,480
I've got Parker-Jones in Room Two.

733
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,960
What?

734
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:46,960
He's here?

735
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:50,960
Whose bloody idea was that?
Mine.

736
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:55,960
We found some kids that recognised
the property where we picked up
Jackson.

737
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,320
It's owned by Parker-Jones. What?

738
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:02,960
Jackson's been living in a house
owned by Parker-Jones. It's all
there. Full report.

739
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,800
Who's interviewing him?
Haskons and Lillie.

740
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,960
Oh, shit. As you weren't here, we
couldn't contact you.

741
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:10,960
I've just been trying to close the
case.

742
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:14,960
No. I know what you're doing, Bill.
And you're just not good enough.

743
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,960
I did not want Parker-Jones brought
in yet.

744
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,960
Have you got a reason?
Yeah. I'm not ready for him.

745
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:26,960
(Door slams)

746
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:31,960
Why exactly have I been brought in?

747
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:35,960
Why wasn't all this asked before?
I've been perfectly willing to
co-operate.

748
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:40,960
Detective Chief Inspector.

749
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:46,960
The time is 18:30 and DCI Tennison
has just entered the interview room.

750
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:50,960
Mr Parker-Jones, could you tell me
about your relationship with Margaret
Speel?

751
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:54,960
She is my fiancee.

752
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:04,960
Did you, in 1979, run the Harrow Home
For Boys in Manchester?

753
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:06,000
Yes.

754
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,960
And, in 1986, the Calloway Centre in
Cardiff? Yes.

755
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:13,480
Do you know Anthony Field?

756
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,640
Yes.

757
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,960
Jason Baldwin? Yes. They were both in
my care.

758
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,000
Do you know a John Kennington?

759
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:25,960
Yes. Not well, but I have met him.

760
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:31,960
Will you tell me about one of your
employees - James Jackson?

761
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:36,960
I wouldn't call it employed,
exactly. He does, on the odd
occasion, do some repairs for me.

762
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:38,960
Caretaking, that sort of thing.

763
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:40,800
How well do you know Mr Jackson?

764
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:44,960
I've already told you, I don't know
him on a personal or social level.

765
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,960
He simply does the occasional odd
job for me, that's all.

766
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,960
But he lives in one of your
properties, Mr Parker-Jones.

767
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,960
Yes. I have admitted this.

768
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:58,960
I pay Jackson a nominal amount and,
in return, he repairs the property.

769
00:51:59,960 --> 00:52:03,960
I have no reason to know what he
does in his personal life.

770
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:07,480
I'm not even sure if he lives on the
property in a permanent basis,

771
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:11,480
as he told me he has an elderly
mother he takes care of and spends a
lot of time with.

772
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,960
How many names are you known under?

773
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:23,000
I have two houses in the name of
Edwards and one in the name of
Jones.

774
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,640
I have, on occasion, used both of
them.

775
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:29,960
And why do you use different names on
the deeds of your properties?

776
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,960
I just do. There's no law against
it.

777
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,960
Would you like to tell me about the
two sexual assault charges -

778
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,960
one in Manchester and one in Cardiff?

779
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:51,960
Not really.

780
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:56,000
In both incidents all the charges
were dropped. I see no reason to
discuss them now.

781
00:52:56,000 --> 00:53:00,960
Did John Kennington assist or advise
you in any way concerning these
charges?

782
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:04,960
I don't recall.

783
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:08,960
Have you ever attempted to get monies
from John Kennington? Extortion.
Blackmail.

784
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,960
Did you ever attempt to get monies?
No. That's ridiculous.

785
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,960
Are you aware that John Kennington
was bringing charges...

786
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:18,160
I would certainly not attempt to
extort monies

787
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,960
from someone who has freely donated
to my centre.

788
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,960
I have presented a detailed list, as
requested,

789
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,960
of all those who give charitable
donations to the centre.

790
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,960
I presume this information was
passed on to you.

791
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:38,960
Did you call the emergency services
on the night of the 17th?

792
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:40,960
I'm sorry?
An ambulance.

793
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,960
Did you call an ambulance on the
night of the 17th?

794
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:45,960
No.

795
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:51,160
Would you please state where you were
on the night of the 17th

796
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,960
between the hours of 8:15 and 9:30?

797
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:58,640
I have already told you. I never
left the Advice Centre.

798
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:00,800
This is really becoming ludicrous.

799
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:02,000
Is it?

800
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:06,960
Are you aware that it is illegal to
display false credentials?

801
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,960
So would you tell me the names of
all the witnesses

802
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:17,960
that you say saw you at the Advice
Centre for the duration of the
evening of the 17th?

803
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,960
Billy Matthews, David Driscoll,

804
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:25,800
Alan Thorpe, Kenny Lloyd and...

805
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,960
BOTH: James Jackson.

806
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,960
I think I deserve a bottle of
champagne because...

807
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,000
Billy Matthews' alibi is now
withdrawn.

808
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,960
Billy was not at the Advice Centre
or anywhere near.

809
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:39,960
He was, in fact, in hospital,

810
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:43,960
taken there by ambulance on the
night of the 17th - and this is the
best bit -

811
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:45,960
from the Advice Centre.
Coffees, please, love.

812
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,960
Fletcher's dead.
Disco Driscoll, alibi withdrawn.

813
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:50,960
Kenny Lloyd, alibi withdrawn.

814
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:54,960
Just Jackson giving Parker-Jones an
alibi and vice versa.

815
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,960
The only other person is Alan
Thorpe, but he was drunk.

816
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:01,960
OK, now, where's Jackson?
With Larry the Lamb. Room Three.

817
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:07,960
That's a bottle of Moet for Kathy.
And you two are paying because of
this fiasco.

818
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:09,960
Oh, yes! (Laughs)

819
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:11,960
Oh, bloody hell.

820
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:13,480
Who put those up?

821
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,960
What did Connie owe you the money
for?

822
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,960
He needed some photographs. He
needed to get some new gear.

823
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,960
Well, that's what he told me, so I
lent him the dough.

824
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:26,960
How much? 7:36, DCI Tennison's just
entered the interview room.

825
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:30,960
200 quid. Then he disappears, so I
go out looking for him.

826
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:32,960
Did you go to Vernon's flat looking
for him?

827
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:37,960
Yeah, but in the afternoon. I spoke
to Vera, she was there.

828
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,160
And she told you what?

829
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,960
That Connie wasn't there. I've told
you all this. I've said all this.

830
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:49,960
Did Edward Parker-Jones ask you to
say that you were at the Advice
Centre?

831
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:51,960
No.

832
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,960
Why don't you tell me about the
money?

833
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:57,960
Did you often lend Connie money?
No.

834
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:01,960
He usually had enough. He was always
pretty flush. Sometimes I borrowed
from him.

835
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:03,960
So when exactly did you give him this
200 quid?

836
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,960
I don't remember, I'm sorry.
Can't remember.

837
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:11,960
Er, was Connie living in a house in
Camden Town?

838
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:16,960
Sometimes left his gear there but
he'd not actually lived...lived
there for months.

839
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:20,960
Do you know where he was living for
the past couple of months?

840
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:22,960
No. I don't know where he was
living.

841
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:24,960
Where did you give him the money,
then?

842
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,480
Oh, yeah, at the Advice Centre.
No, no.

843
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:32,960
Edward Parker-Jones said he hadn't
seen him at the Advice Centre for
months.

844
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:37,960
I don't remember where I gave it to
him. I'm sorry. Really.

845
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:40,320
Just don't remember.

846
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:43,960
So, how well do you know Edward
Parker-Jones?

847
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,960
I work for him. He pays me a few
quid to look after his property.

848
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:51,640
Did you ever try and extort money out
of a man called John Kennington?

849
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:55,960
Extortion. Know what that means?
Blackmail. Did you ever blackmail
John Kennington?

850
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:57,960
No. I don't know him.

851
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:02,960
So, on the night that Connie died,
did you discuss anything with Edward
Parker-Jones?

852
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:04,960
Yeah.

853
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,960
The price of toilet paper.

854
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:10,960
I get it in bulk for him.

855
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:16,960
And after Connie died, did you
discuss anything with Edward
Parker-Jones,

856
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:18,960
apart from the price of toilet paper?

857
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,960
Like what?
Well, look...

858
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:24,960
You stated that... What have we got
here?

859
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,960
David Driscoll, Billy Matthews, Alan
Thorpe and Kenny Lloyd

860
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:32,960
all saw you at the Advice Centre the
night that Colin died. Is that
correct?

861
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:35,960
Yeah, that's right.
The same names as listed by
Parker-Jones.

862
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:39,960
I'm asking you again. Did you or did
you not discuss it with Mr
Parker-Jones?

863
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:44,960
Well, no. There was no reason to.
They were there and so was he.

864
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:48,960
So he's bound to say the same lads
as I say because I was there.

865
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:50,000
See?

866
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:55,160
You'll be charged with the attempted
murder of a police officer.

867
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:59,960
You also refused another officer
entry to the house in Camden Town

868
00:57:59,960 --> 00:58:03,480
and physically attacked another
police officer.

869
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:05,960
You were holding a 14-year-old girl
against her will.

870
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,320
Do you want any more, Jimmy? We've
got more.

871
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:10,960
I didn't know they were coppers, I
swear.

872
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,960
I mean, they just barged into the
house.

873
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:18,000
And that girl is not gonna press
charges cos she begged me to give
her a place to stay.

874
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,160
I didn't know she was 14.

875
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:24,960
And that other thing, I thought that
was Red. That thick old drag queen.

876
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,960
I didn't know that was a copper.
It's just mistaken identity.

877
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:30,960
Why did you want to kill her?
I didn't want to kill her.

878
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:33,960
No way. I just wanted to frighten
her a bit.

879
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,000
Why?

880
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:41,320
Well, Vera told me she'd been
talking to the cops and all I wanted
to do was frighten her off.

881
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,960
Why? Why did you want to frighten
Rodney Allerton?

882
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:45,960
That's Red.

883
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,960
Because I did.

884
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:52,320
I'm sorry, I'm really sorry. It was
all a mistake.

885
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:55,960
Oh, James, you must have had a
reason.

886
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:57,960
No.

887
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:01,960
No, I didn't have a reason. That's
the God's honest truth.

888
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:06,000
Well, you are going to go to prison
for a very long time.

889
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,160
For no reason at all.

890
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:11,960
My client's very tired.

891
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:15,960
Perhaps we can continue this
interview in the morning.

892
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:17,960
Look forward to it.

893
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:29,960
(Groans with disgust) After you.

894
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:34,960
He must have had letters, diaries.
He was selling his story to that
woman. What was her name?

895
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:36,960
Jessica Smithy.

896
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:41,800
I mean, what if Jessica Smithy spoke
to Martin Fletcher before Connie?

897
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:45,160
She was writing a piece about rent
boys plural, not just one rent boy.

898
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:47,320
What have we got here?

899
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:53,960
Yeah. Nice little...awayday
assortment.

900
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:57,960
(Muttering)

901
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:01,640
Look at this.

902
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:05,960
I want Forensic in here. I want the
whole house checked out and I want it
done tonight.

903
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:11,160
I think we should have another go at
our Vera. She has been staying
there.

904
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:13,640
I'll wait for Forensic, might be a
while.

905
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:15,960
This is my case, Bill. Don't jump the
gun again.

906
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:20,960
(Softly) Your case. Yes, ma'am.

907
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:25,960
Right. I've got a couple of bits and
pieces on Edward Parker-Jones.

908
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:29,960
He owns a number of bed and
breakfasts/houses.

909
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:32,960
All registered under the company
name of Protega.

910
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:36,480
Can you spell that, please?
P-R-O-T-E-G-A.

911
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:39,960
He's a registered charity. He's got
a staff of four.

912
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:41,960
All paid?
All paid.

913
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:43,960
Glad to see you're still with us.

914
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:46,960
TANNOY: DCI Tennison, please contact
reception.

915
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:48,960
He receives loads of grants.

916
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:52,960
He gets one from Camden at 160,000.

917
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:56,960
The doctor attached to the Calloway
Centre in Cardiff - his widow, Joyce
Ellis.

918
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,960
She's 52, has two sons.

919
01:00:59,960 --> 01:01:02,960
In 1987, was married to John
Kennington.

920
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:07,320
As well as that he gets £110 per
person from local authorities.

921
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:10,960
Decided to change sides, have you?

922
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:13,320
TANNOY: Could DCI Tennison return to
her office?

923
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:15,960
Thank you very much.

924
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:27,480
You have not one shred of evidence
against Parker-Jones

925
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:29,960
or his involvement in the death of
Col...

926
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:33,000
Colin Jenkins. No, I haven't got him
to admit his involvement.

927
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,960
But I know that he's covering up for
Jackson.

928
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:39,960
And very possibly for John Kennington
as well.

929
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:42,960
Drop it.

930
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:44,960
Are you serious?

931
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:49,640
In 1979 and again in 1986, both
Edward Parker-Jones and John
Kennington...

932
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:51,960
I'm fully aware of the cases you're
referring to.

933
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:55,960
You should have made whatever
information you had available to me.
I've wasted...

934
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:58,960
Waste being the operative word,
Chief Inspector.

935
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:02,480
You're supposed to be
investigating...
The murder of Colin Jenkins.

936
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:05,960
If I discover evidence that proves
that Edward Parker-Jones...

937
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:09,960
That is not the Colin Jenkins case.
..is unfit to be awarded massive
grants

938
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:11,960
and is a possible paedophile.

939
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:15,480
Is this true?

940
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:19,960
Chief Inspector Tennison, you give
me no option but to warn you

941
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:22,960
that if you continue to
investigation persons...

942
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:27,960
No, just one person. Edward
Parker-Jones. ..against specific
instructions,

943
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:29,960
then disciplinary action will be
taken.

944
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:33,960
You take it, sir, and I will fight
you every inch of the way.

945
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:37,960
I have been fobbed off with "stay
clear of this or that persons"
because of,

946
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:40,960
and I quote, "repercussions to this
department".

947
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:44,960
Well, this department has blatantly
attempted to sabotage my
investigations into a murder

948
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:49,960
which has direct links to a
paedophile ring, one member of which,
John Kennington,

949
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:52,960
was the subject of a full-scale
internal police inquiry.

950
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:55,960
Kennington was reinstated.
Six months later he was being
blackmailed.

951
01:02:55,960 --> 01:03:00,000
Uh. Case dismissed. What happen? You
all get cold feet? Retire him? Pay
him off?

952
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:03,960
And somewhere in the mess a young boy
dies. Just calm down.

953
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:08,960
Look at it from our side.

954
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:11,960
The investigation into John
Kennington... Was a failure.

955
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:13,960
And to the tune of £1½m.

956
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:15,960
Next - Operation Contract.

957
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:18,960
Bloody fiasco that was. How much did
that set the government back?

958
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:22,960
I mean, you knew there was a leak.
Well, was it John Kennington?

959
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:25,320
Be very careful what you're
insinuating.

960
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:28,960
Look, I just want to find the
murderer of Colin Jenkins.

961
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:33,960
If that touches on Edward
Parker-Jones or anyone else, then so
be it.

962
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:38,960
I take full responsibility. You can
lay it all on my shoulders. But I
will not be a scapegoat.

963
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:42,960
If you take me off this case now, I'm
warning you, I won't go quietly.

964
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:46,960
Don't make threats, Detective Chief
Inspector.

965
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:55,640
I want to be put forward for
superintendent.

966
01:03:56,640 --> 01:04:01,480
Now, I fully expect to make an arrest
in the Colin Jenkins murder this
weekend.

967
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:03,960
And, therefore, with the case closed,

968
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:08,800
there will be no further necessities
for any investigations into John
Kennington.

969
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:18,480
Did James Jackson kill Connie?

970
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:23,320
Vera, he can't hurt you.

971
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:25,960
He's gonna be behind bars for a very
long time.

972
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:28,960
Come on, you can tell me.

973
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:32,960
I don't know.

974
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:35,960
Do you know a John Kennington?

975
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:41,960
Vera.

976
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:44,160
Vera, look at me.

977
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:46,320
You've got to help me.

978
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:50,960
Jackson was looking for Connie that
night. He said he owed him money.

979
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:55,960
Connie didn't need to borrow money
from Jackson. He always used to have
money.

980
01:04:55,960 --> 01:05:00,480
Did you know any of his clients?
No. He was very secretive about
them.

981
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:03,960
You give one kid a name, next minute
they're offering themselves.

982
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:08,960
You think he was just gay, don't
you?

983
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:14,960
Why do you think we got on so well?

984
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:16,960
I don't know.

985
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:18,960
Why don't you tell me?

986
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:23,320
He was the same as me.

987
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:25,960
He'd go with gays...

988
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:27,960
but he liked straight men better.

989
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:29,960
He wanted money.

990
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:31,480
He needed a lot.

991
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:33,960
For the operation.

992
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:35,960
They do the best in Rio.

993
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:37,960
He would have had to have paid for
it.

994
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:42,960
There's no way the NHS would give
him the operation. He was too young.

995
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:44,960
It's always been my dream.

996
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:50,960
So Connie needed a lot of money. Say,
what, 10-15,000 quid?

997
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:54,320
Where was he gonna get that from?

998
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:55,960
Connie was capable of anything.

999
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:00,960
Like blackmail?

1000
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:04,320
Yes.

1001
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:06,480
I think he got scared off.

1002
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:09,960
He was getting a bit desperate.

1003
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:12,960
He'd lost a lot of his big money
clients.

1004
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:14,960
He was too old for them.

1005
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:17,960
Kept knocking a few years off his
age, but they knew.

1006
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:21,960
Do you know Jessica Smithy?

1007
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:30,960
So you know that Connie was selling
his story to the papers?

1008
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:36,480
But I think, you know, she kept
stringing him along, promising big
money.

1009
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:39,320
He used to brag about it.

1010
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:42,960
But she wanted evidence - you know,
names, photographs.

1011
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:44,160
(Chuckles) Photographs!

1012
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:50,960
Did James Jackson know about this?

1013
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,000
Well, he found out.

1014
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:58,960
Connie had a sort of a file, you
know, to show this reporter.

1015
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:02,960
He found out.

1016
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:05,960
Martin Fletcher stole some things
from Jackson.

1017
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:08,960
Oh. And gave them to Connie.

1018
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:13,960
That's why Jackson was looking for
Connie. Oh, right.

1019
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:15,960
But not just to get these things
back.

1020
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:21,960
Because he knew that if Connie was
selling his story to the papers,
he'd be in it too.

1021
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:25,960
Connie had been one his boys, you
see, early on.

1022
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:28,960
What, you mean it was Jackson who got
Connie on the game?

1023
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:29,960
Yes.
Oh.

1024
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:32,000
But he got him so young.

1025
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:35,640
I mean, he was only ten years old
when Jackson found him.

1026
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:39,960
Did you see what Martin got from
Jackson, the thing he eventually gave
to Connie?

1027
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:41,960
No, no, I never, I never saw it.

1028
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:45,960
I mean, he told me. But it
was...pictures.

1029
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:48,800
Photographs. Maybe letters. I don't
know.

1030
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:50,960
But I never saw what Martin nicked
from Jackson.

1031
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:55,000
But that's why Martin got beaten up,
because Jackson wanted the stuff
back.

1032
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:59,960
So, Connie had told you about this
stuff that Martin had got from
Jackson.

1033
01:07:59,960 --> 01:08:03,960
And he told you that he was gonna use
it, sell it to the papers.

1034
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:06,480
Did he tell you who he was going to
blackmail with it?

1035
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:08,960
No, no. But he was kind of excited,
you know.

1036
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:10,960
He was very pleased with himself.

1037
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:15,320
Said he was going to get the money
for his operation. He was very
certain.

1038
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:22,960
Thank you, Vera.

1039
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:26,960
All right, you can go now.

1040
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:41,960
Hello, Margaret. How are you?
I intend to report you.

1041
01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:47,960
Get you blacklisted from every
council and government-run scheme
that you've abused.

1042
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:49,960
What do you mean?
I trusted you.

1043
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:55,640
I may even have helped you, that's
what's worst. Worse than the lies
you've told me.

1044
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:57,960
Who's been talking to you?
Don't touch me.

1045
01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:01,960
Come in and let's just talk this
through. She knows everything about
you.

1046
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:05,480
And about John Kennington. Before
I've finished, you'll go to prison.

1047
01:09:05,480 --> 01:09:07,960
You don't know what you're talking
about.

1048
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:09,960
This is from that Inspector
Tennison, yes?

1049
01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:11,960
You don't understand, Margaret.

1050
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:13,960
Yes, I do.
Shut up!

1051
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:18,960
Now just keep calm. Keep calm. Let
me explain.

1052
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:21,960
Get out of here. Don't you touch
him! Get off him!

1053
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:23,960
Get out. This place is closed. Get
out now!

1054
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:25,960
You bastard! You bastard!

1055
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:28,960
That's yours. That's your doing!

1056
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:31,960
You! You bastard!

1057
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:34,960
You bastard! That's you!

1058
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:36,960
Bastard. You bastard!

1059
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:37,960
Get out!

1060
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:41,960
Mrs Kennington? Edward Parker-Jones.
Can I speak to John, please?

1061
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:43,800
You bastard!

1062
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:46,160
So you were told by Martin Fletcher
where Connie was?

1063
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:48,960
You then went to Vernon Reynolds'
flat, didn't you?

1064
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:50,960
I didn't.

1065
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:54,960
I've admitted I was looking for
Connie, but I wasn't the only one.

1066
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:58,960
Oh, who else? Who else was looking
for Connie the night that he was
murdered?

1067
01:09:59,960 --> 01:10:04,640
Come on, Jimmy. It's just five, ten
minutes' walk from the Advice Centre
and back.

1068
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:07,800
I never killed him. I couldn't have.

1069
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:14,960
But you had to silence him, didn't
you, eh?

1070
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:17,960
He's was going to tell about the way
you kidnap underage kids.

1071
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:19,960
They were up at the top of the
house.

1072
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:23,960
We've seen them. The knives, the
chains, the whips, you bastard.

1073
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:27,800
So did you torture kids up there?

1074
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:33,960
We have, to date, 15 different blood
samples taken from the walls, bed
linen, floorboards.

1075
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:35,960
What were you doing to those
children?

1076
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:41,960
Mr Jackson, I really would try to be
as co-operative as possible.

1077
01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:45,960
You know, these charges against you
are very serious.

1078
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:50,800
Look...I did go to the centre,
right?

1079
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:53,960
I told Parker-Jones I couldn't find
him...right?

1080
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:01,960
Look...Martin Fletcher took my stuff
from...

1081
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:03,960
What stuff?

1082
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:06,960
Stuff. Things. Photographs.

1083
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:08,960
And I wanted them back, right?

1084
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:11,960
Were you in these photographs?
Some of them.

1085
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:16,000
Connie nicked them. He got Martin to
get them for him from Camden, right?
Are you with me?

1086
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:17,960
Who else was in the photographs?

1087
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:21,960
I can't remember.
Can't remember?

1088
01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:25,640
You almost killed a boy for them. You
can't remember?

1089
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:27,960
Come on, who else was in the
photographs?

1090
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:31,960
Was Edward Parker-Jones in these
photographs?

1091
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:34,960
No.

1092
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:37,960
How about John Kennington? Was he in
the photographs?

1093
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:40,960
Just kids.

1094
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:43,640
Blokes dressed up, bit of porno,
that's all.

1095
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:48,320
Anyway, it gets to about eight, a
bit after,

1096
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:50,960
and I tell Parker-Jones I can't find
Connie

1097
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:53,960
and he says get Martin Fletcher,
he'd know where he was.

1098
01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:56,960
So I did. Ask Martin Fletcher. He'll
tell you.

1099
01:11:57,960 --> 01:11:59,960
Martin Fletcher is dead, Jimmy.

1100
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:10,320
So, Edward Parker-Jones was looking
for these photographs.

1101
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:13,960
Well, why? If he wasn't in them, why
was he looking for them?

1102
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:15,960
I don't know.

1103
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:17,960
All I know is he wanted them. So did
I.

1104
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:20,960
Yeah, but you were in the
photographs.

1105
01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:23,960
Are you sure that Edward Parker-Jones
wasn't in these photographs?

1106
01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:25,960
No. I don't have any pictures of
him.

1107
01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:27,960
Was John Kennington in the
photographs?

1108
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:30,640
No. I've told you before, I don't
even know that bloke.

1109
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:33,960
They were just photographs of you and
you wanted them so desperately

1110
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:36,320
that you were prepared to kill for
them.

1111
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:41,960
Look...when that fire started, I was
on the other side of Waterloo
Bridge.

1112
01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:43,960
Who else was at the Advice Centre?

1113
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:46,960
I was only there two minutes, no
more. Then I come out.

1114
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:51,960
Just two minutes? You sure about
that?

1115
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:55,960
Who else did you talk to apart from
Edward Parker-Jones? Anyone else?

1116
01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:57,160
Yeah.

1117
01:12:57,160 --> 01:12:59,960
Vera Reynolds.

1118
01:12:59,960 --> 01:13:01,960
Vera Reynolds.

1119
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:44,960
(Door closes)

1120
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:47,960
Are you all right?

1121
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:51,960
He shot himself, not me.

1122
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:56,960
You were here yesterday, weren't
you?

1123
01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:58,960
Yes. Do you want me to leave?

1124
01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:00,960
But then you'd only want to come
back.

1125
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:03,960
So...ask whatever you want and get
it over with.

1126
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:09,960
(Sighs)

1127
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:12,960
I was in the front bedroom.

1128
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:14,960
We sleep in separate rooms.

1129
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:18,960
There was a phone call.

1130
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:23,800
I put it through to John's study.
About half an hour later, I heard
the...

1131
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:27,960
Well, I didn't know what it was.

1132
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:32,960
To be honest, I thought it was the
plumbing. It's been making
extraordinary noises.

1133
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:36,960
Of course, it wasn't.

1134
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:38,960
John had shot himself.

1135
01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:41,480
Do you know who the call was from?

1136
01:14:41,480 --> 01:14:43,960
Oh, yes, I know who it was from. It
was er...

1137
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:46,960
..Edward Parker-Jones.

1138
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:52,320
At least this saves me getting a
divorce.

1139
01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:55,960
There have been obstacles in the way
for almost a year.

1140
01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:57,960
Yes, I know about the investigations.

1141
01:14:57,960 --> 01:15:00,960
Oh, do you?

1142
01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:03,960
Mrs Kennington, you used to be a
doctor, didn't you?

1143
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:04,960
Mm.

1144
01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:06,960
Do you still practise?
No.

1145
01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:12,960
My first husband died. We worked
together. Or in the same practice.

1146
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:13,960
In Cardiff.

1147
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:16,960
Yes, in...in Cardiff.

1148
01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:23,960
Why do you want to know about my
husband's practice?

1149
01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:27,960
While you were in Cardiff, was Edward
Parker-Jones running the um...

1150
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:29,960
The Calloway Centre.

1151
01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:33,960
Why are you asking me these
questions?

1152
01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:37,960
Did you examine a boy, a young boy,
called Jason Baldwin?

1153
01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:41,480
It was a sexual assault charge.
Which was subsequently dropped.

1154
01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:44,480
No, my husband examined him.

1155
01:15:46,480 --> 01:15:48,640
Oh, my God.

1156
01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:52,800
You think I had something to do with
that?

1157
01:15:55,960 --> 01:16:00,960
My husband was critically ill. He
was very sick. I had...I had two
small children.

1158
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:03,160
And he had...cancer.

1159
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:06,160
I only remember because...

1160
01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:08,320
because he died...

1161
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:11,960
and then there was this
investigation about this boy.

1162
01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:13,960
But there was so much confusion.

1163
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:17,960
Whether his reports were stolen or
just mislaid, I really don't know.

1164
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:21,960
My first husband was a...

1165
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:26,800
..very decent human being.

1166
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:29,160
Do you know if any young boys were
ever brought here?

1167
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:33,960
Do I know if young boys were ever
brought here?

1168
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:35,960
I mean, while you were away.

1169
01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:40,960
There's one boy in particular that
I'm interested in.

1170
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:42,960
His name was Connie.

1171
01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:47,960
Colin Jenkins.

1172
01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:49,960
Do you recognise him?

1173
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:55,960
Mrs Kennington, would you please look
at the photograph?

1174
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:08,000
At least I was able to protect my
own sons.

1175
01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:21,960
Er, let me know when you want to see
Jessica Smithy. She's just arrived.

1176
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:25,960
Was it right you wanted Vernon
Reynolds bringing back in? We just
released him.

1177
01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:28,960
Yes. Oh, and watch Alice in
Wonderland. Remember she's a
journalist.

1178
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:31,480
Stick her in one of the interview
rooms. Right.

1179
01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:04,960
Yes, hello, could I speak to Dr
Gordon, please? It's Jane Tennison.

1180
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:16,960
Dr Gordon, I'm sorry to disturb you
at home. I wanted to talk to you as
soon as possible.

1181
01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:20,960
No, no, no. No, it's just that...

1182
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:22,960
I would like to arrange a
termination, please.

1183
01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:29,960
Yes, I am aware that it's a very big
decision, but I...

1184
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:36,960
Yes, I obviously have given it a
great deal of thought.

1185
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:38,960
I want an abortion.

1186
01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:45,480
Yes, I know.

1187
01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:49,960
Right.

1188
01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:52,960
I'll call you next week to arrange a
time and a date.

1189
01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:55,960
OK. Goodbye.

1190
01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:11,160
Bill, would you just give me a moment
or two on my own?

1191
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:12,960
Certainly.

1192
01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:51,960
(Sobs)

1193
01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:17,960
Choose them yourself, do you?
Er, no, my girlfriend does.

1194
01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:21,960
I'd get rid of her if I were you.

1195
01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:27,960
It's shit!

1196
01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:32,960
And you lied to me. You never at any
time said that you were near that
Advice Centre.

1197
01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:35,960
Why, Vernon?
You've always called me Vera.

1198
01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:37,960
Oh, stop playing games with me.

1199
01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:41,640
Did you or did you not, on the night
that Connie died, see Jackson?

1200
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:44,960
Yes.

1201
01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:47,960
And what time did you get to the
Advice Centre?

1202
01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:51,800
A-A-About 8:30.

1203
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:55,960
8:30.

1204
01:20:56,960 --> 01:20:59,960
Where was Connie?
In the flat.

1205
01:20:59,960 --> 01:21:02,960
Alone?
Yes.

1206
01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:05,960
Well...your friend Red is now in
trouble, isn't he?

1207
01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:10,960
Because he swore, on oath, that you
were at your friend's studio at...

1208
01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:14,480
6:30 it was, yes. He never notices
the time.

1209
01:21:14,480 --> 01:21:16,960
Then I went to the club, just as he
said.

1210
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:20,960
When you left your flat, was Connie
there?

1211
01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:24,960
Suspect nodded his head.

1212
01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:26,960
Was he alone?

1213
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:30,960
Suspect shook his head.

1214
01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:36,320
Well, who was with Connie when you
left your flat at 6:30?

1215
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:41,960
A journalist. (Sobs)

1216
01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:51,960
I tried.

1217
01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:53,960
I told you. I gave you all the
clues.

1218
01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:59,960
It was me who was at the Advice
Centre. I even said Parker-Jones's
name.

1219
01:21:59,960 --> 01:22:03,320
It was me who told you about
Jackson, me who told you about the
press.

1220
01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:10,960
I went back to the flat because I'd
forgotten um...

1221
01:22:12,480 --> 01:22:14,960
..a sequined choker.

1222
01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:16,960
Connie was still there.

1223
01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:19,960
And he was showing her my album.

1224
01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:23,960
She was looking at my photographs.

1225
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:29,960
You don't understand, do you?

1226
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:34,960
There were some loose pictures of me
before...

1227
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:36,640
Before.

1228
01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:40,480
With my mum and my dad.

1229
01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:45,960
Private pictures, no show business
ones. Just my mum and my dad and my
brother.

1230
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:47,960
(Sobs)

1231
01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:53,160
(Mutters tearfully) I'd had enough.

1232
01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:58,160
I don't ever see them, so the
pictures are very special to me.

1233
01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:02,960
After all I'd done for him, he was
selling me too.

1234
01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:08,960
I didn't want to make a drama,

1235
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:10,960
not in front of the press woman.

1236
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:14,960
So I just called him out of the
room.

1237
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:17,960
Said I wanted to talk to him.

1238
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:22,960
He swore he wasn't letting her have
a single picture.

1239
01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:26,960
She left a few minutes later.

1240
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:29,960
I went in to check my album. He
lied.

1241
01:23:29,960 --> 01:23:31,960
There were a lot missing.

1242
01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:35,960
So...I confronted him but...

1243
01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:42,800
..he swore he hadn't given her
anything, said she must've stolen
them, but he was such a liar.

1244
01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:46,960
And er...

1245
01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:49,960
I got hysterical and er...I hit him.

1246
01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:51,960
With an ashtray, I think.

1247
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:55,960
He fell down.

1248
01:23:55,960 --> 01:23:57,960
I didn't mean to hurt him.

1249
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:02,960
I helped him to the sofa.

1250
01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:06,960
He gave me one of his smiles. He had
such a sweet smile.

1251
01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:12,960
He closed his eyes.

1252
01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:19,320
I couldn't feel a pulse and he
was...he was dead.

1253
01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:21,000
Did you call an ambulance?

1254
01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:26,000
My telephone's not working. I told
Mr Parker-Jones. He said...

1255
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:29,960
What? What did he say? He said he
would take care of everything.

1256
01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:32,960
Did he?
I don't know.

1257
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:45,960
I was put in prison when I was not
that much older than Connie.

1258
01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:50,960
That's what I'm scared of.

1259
01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:54,960
Inside, they're all Jacksons.

1260
01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:56,960
I was raped every night.

1261
01:24:56,960 --> 01:25:01,960
That's what I've been so scared of.
I wanted to tell you but I was just
so scared.

1262
01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:10,640
I need to go to...I need to go to
the toilet.

1263
01:25:15,640 --> 01:25:20,320
We are terminating this interview
at...3:45 in Interview Room Two.

1264
01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:23,480
Mr Vernon Reynolds needs to use the
toilet.

1265
01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:27,800
Could you take him to the toilet,
please?

1266
01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:38,960
Can't you take me to the ladies?

1267
01:25:57,960 --> 01:26:00,320
You just pretended to like me.

1268
01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:14,000
(Tuts and sighs)

1269
01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:17,960
Come on, love!

1270
01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:22,800
Oh, hello.

1271
01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:24,960
Who's in there?
Vernon Reynolds.

1272
01:26:24,960 --> 01:26:28,960
He's just admitted to smacking Colin
Jenkins.

1273
01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:30,960
Just finished questioning him.

1274
01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:34,640
So it wasn't Jackson after all?
(Clattering)

1275
01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:40,960
Vernon's cut his wrists. I need to
call an ambulance.

1276
01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:44,960
All right. Come on.

1277
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:46,960
He's cut his wrists!

1278
01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:51,000
Vera. Listen to me.

1279
01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:53,960
I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Hold on, Vera. Hold on.

1280
01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:56,960
I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Sorry. I'm
sorry. It's all right.

1281
01:26:56,960 --> 01:26:59,480
She's losing a lot of blood. Hurry
up!

1282
01:26:59,480 --> 01:27:01,960
I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Listen.

1283
01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:04,960
Listen. You didn't kill Connie. She
died in the fire.

1284
01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:07,960
15-minute delay on the ambulance
call-out.

1285
01:27:07,960 --> 01:27:10,640
Get a car.

1286
01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:12,480
Get one for me too.

1287
01:27:12,480 --> 01:27:14,960
He died in the fire. It was the fire
that did it.

1288
01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:17,960
I've been here since half-past two.
I want to go to the ladies.

1289
01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:20,960
You have no right to waste my time.
I have every right.

1290
01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:23,480
And I will keep you here as long as I
wish.

1291
01:27:23,480 --> 01:27:27,960
You have lied, you have withheld
vital evidence and you, Miss Smithy,
have wasted my time.

1292
01:27:27,960 --> 01:27:29,960
You want the ladies? Come with me.

1293
01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:35,960
I only made two tapes, I swear
before God. Just two tapes.

1294
01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:38,960
I know I should have told you about
me being at the flat.

1295
01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:40,960
Did you take anything from his flat?

1296
01:27:42,960 --> 01:27:44,960
Did you? Yes.

1297
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:48,960
They were just some snapshots.
Nobody famous. Just a few
black-and-white photos.

1298
01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:52,960
Apart from the photographs that you
took, did Connie give you anything?

1299
01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:54,960
Nothing. Nothing.

1300
01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:58,960
Just some story about being picked
up when he was 10 or 11. I think he
made that up.

1301
01:27:58,960 --> 01:28:00,960
Come with me.

1302
01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:04,960
I tried to contact you, you know I
did. Oh, stop with the Doris Day
act.

1303
01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:07,960
It's getting on my nerves.
Your car's ready.

1304
01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:09,960
Get Kathy to get in touch with
emergency services.

1305
01:28:09,960 --> 01:28:14,960
Check if there was a 15-minute delay
on the night of the 17th. Quick as
you can.

1306
01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:17,960
Right, Miss Smithy, tell me about
Martin Fletcher.

1307
01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:20,960
He was the first boy I approached.
He introduced me to Connie.

1308
01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:23,960
It became obvious that Connie would
make a better story.

1309
01:28:23,960 --> 01:28:27,960
We were worried Martin was too
young. Martin Fletcher is dead.

1310
01:28:27,960 --> 01:28:30,320
Did you know that?

1311
01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:33,960
Right, you drop Martin Fletcher and
you offer Connie money.

1312
01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:36,800
Did you give him the money in Vernon
Reynolds' flat?

1313
01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:40,960
Yes. He put it in his pocket. He
said it wasn't enough. He said he
wanted more.

1314
01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:43,800
All right. And what happened then?

1315
01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:47,800
I said I couldn't give him any more,
not until I at least saw what he had
to offer.

1316
01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:50,960
Did he give you anything? Any
pictures, any names? Anything?

1317
01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:51,960
No.

1318
01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:57,960
What happened next?

1319
01:28:57,960 --> 01:28:59,960
He left the room for a minute.

1320
01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:06,960
And there was this album on the
coffee table. Vera Reynolds' album.

1321
01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:09,960
Yes?

1322
01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:13,960
They were just photos of a family.
And a couple of somebody in drag.

1323
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:15,960
They were no use. They meant
nothing.

1324
01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:18,960
You're wrong, Miss Smithy. They meant
a great deal to someone.

1325
01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:22,960
Enough to make him pick up a heavy
ashtray and hit Connie over the head
with it.

1326
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:24,960
(Door opens)

1327
01:29:24,960 --> 01:29:26,960
You have a great deal to answer for.

1328
01:29:29,160 --> 01:29:33,960
Will you take Miss Smithy and bring
her back with Vernon Reynolds'
photographs?

1329
01:29:33,960 --> 01:29:36,960
Are you going to charge me with
anything? We'll see about that.

1330
01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:03,960
Emergency services have said there
was a 15-minute delay that night

1331
01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:06,960
and all callers were informed that
that was the case.

1332
01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:10,160
I've got him. And this time I'm ready
for him. Let's go.

1333
01:30:58,960 --> 01:31:01,960
I hope you're satisfied. You've
emptied the place.

1334
01:31:01,960 --> 01:31:03,960
Mr Parker-Jones, I am arresting you

1335
01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:07,160
on suspicion of involvement in the
murder of Colin Jenkins.

1336
01:31:07,160 --> 01:31:12,480
You do not have to say anything, but
if you wish to, what you say may be
used in evidence.

1337
01:31:18,960 --> 01:31:19,960
You all set?

1338
01:31:19,960 --> 01:31:21,960
I think so.

1339
01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:25,000
You'd better nail him.

1340
01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:26,960
I intend to.

1341
01:31:33,960 --> 01:31:37,960
I told you I had names. Very
important people. High-up people.

1342
01:31:37,960 --> 01:31:42,960
(Echoes) Very important people.
Because if they found out I was
doing this they'd kill me.

1343
01:31:42,960 --> 01:31:46,960
(Echoes) Very important people.
High-up people. Very important
people.

1344
01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:50,960
Good luck, guv.

1345
01:31:53,960 --> 01:31:57,000
Mr Parker-Jones, you have stated that
on the evening of the 17th,

1346
01:31:57,000 --> 01:31:59,960
you were at the Advice Centre, Soho,
is that correct?

1347
01:31:59,960 --> 01:32:01,960
Yes.

1348
01:32:01,960 --> 01:32:05,960
Would you please tell me who else was
present that evening?

1349
01:32:05,960 --> 01:32:08,960
(Sighs) Billy Matthews...
Statement withdrawn.

1350
01:32:10,800 --> 01:32:12,960
Matthews denies being at the centre.

1351
01:32:13,960 --> 01:32:16,960
David Driscoll?
Statement withdrawn.

1352
01:32:17,960 --> 01:32:19,960
Driscoll denies being at the centre.

1353
01:32:19,960 --> 01:32:24,960
Alan Thorpe. Alan Thorpe says that
he was at the centre

1354
01:32:24,960 --> 01:32:28,960
but that he was not only intoxicated
but also suffering from substance
abuse

1355
01:32:28,960 --> 01:32:33,960
and was, in his own words, unable to
remember whether he was there
himself.

1356
01:32:37,320 --> 01:32:38,960
James Jackson.

1357
01:32:40,480 --> 01:32:45,960
Mr Jackson has made a statement,
contradicting an earlier statement.

1358
01:32:45,960 --> 01:32:48,960
He now says, under caution, that he
was at the centre,

1359
01:32:48,960 --> 01:32:51,640
but for no more than two or three
minutes.

1360
01:32:55,960 --> 01:32:59,960
Do you have any other alibi witnesses
you wish to have recorded at this
time?

1361
01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:04,960
(Whispers)

1362
01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:08,960
(Whispers)

1363
01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:12,960
My client will answer.

1364
01:33:14,960 --> 01:33:19,320
I...realise I have been very
foolish.

1365
01:33:19,320 --> 01:33:24,000
I can only apologise and say I was
in some way trying to protect Vernon
Reynolds.

1366
01:33:25,800 --> 01:33:28,960
Vernon was at the centre on the
17th.

1367
01:33:28,960 --> 01:33:30,960
Did you speak to Vernon Reynolds?

1368
01:33:32,960 --> 01:33:34,960
No comment.

1369
01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:37,960
Did Vernon Reynolds ask you to call
an ambulance?

1370
01:33:38,960 --> 01:33:40,960
No comment.

1371
01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:44,960
Mr Parker-Jones, we are in the
possession of a tape recording.

1372
01:33:44,960 --> 01:33:49,960
It's a phone call made to the
emergency services on the evening of
the 17th.

1373
01:33:49,960 --> 01:33:54,960
It would be very simple for us to
match the voice on the tape with
yours, so...

1374
01:33:54,960 --> 01:33:58,800
..did you or did you not call an
ambulance on the evening of the 17th?

1375
01:34:01,960 --> 01:34:03,960
(Whispers)

1376
01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:08,800
Yes, I did call an ambulance.

1377
01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:10,960
Vernon was in a dreadful state.

1378
01:34:10,960 --> 01:34:13,960
Er, he said that Colin Jenkins and
he had argued

1379
01:34:13,960 --> 01:34:16,960
and that Colin needed a doctor.

1380
01:34:17,960 --> 01:34:20,960
I placed a call with the emergency
services.

1381
01:34:20,960 --> 01:34:22,960
And what did the emergency services
tell you?

1382
01:34:22,960 --> 01:34:24,960
That the ambulance was on its way.

1383
01:34:26,960 --> 01:34:28,960
Anything else?

1384
01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:30,160
No, I don't think so.

1385
01:34:30,160 --> 01:34:33,000
Why didn't you leave your name?

1386
01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:38,960
Well, because the Advice Centre has
had, on occasion, to place emergency
calls

1387
01:34:38,960 --> 01:34:40,960
and then when the ambulance
arrives...

1388
01:34:40,960 --> 01:34:44,960
Did the emergency services tell you
that there would be a 15-minute
delay?

1389
01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:47,960
I don't remember.

1390
01:34:51,960 --> 01:34:53,960
Would you agree that Vernon Reynolds'
flat

1391
01:34:53,960 --> 01:34:56,960
is about a two-minute walk from the
Advice Centre?

1392
01:34:56,960 --> 01:34:59,960
Yes. So, if you had been informed of
a delay...

1393
01:34:59,960 --> 01:35:01,960
I was unaware of any delays.

1394
01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:09,960
Why didn't you call a doctor? Why
didn't you make that short journey
yourself?

1395
01:35:09,960 --> 01:35:12,960
Well, because I couldn't leave the
centre unattended.

1396
01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:17,960
And at no point did Vernon make it
clear that it was an emergency.

1397
01:35:17,960 --> 01:35:21,960
I was asked to phone an ambulance.

1398
01:35:21,960 --> 01:35:22,960
Which I did.

1399
01:35:22,960 --> 01:35:24,960
I admit I lied to you about that,

1400
01:35:24,960 --> 01:35:29,800
but I was just trying to prevent
Vernon Reynolds from getting into
trouble.

1401
01:35:39,960 --> 01:35:42,960
Do you have any further questions
you wish to put to my client?

1402
01:35:42,960 --> 01:35:44,960
Yes, I do.

1403
01:35:50,960 --> 01:35:53,960
Mr Parker-Jones, you've apologised
for lying.

1404
01:35:53,960 --> 01:35:57,960
You lied about the four witnesses you
said saw you at the Advice Centre

1405
01:35:57,960 --> 01:35:59,960
on the evening of the 17th.

1406
01:35:59,960 --> 01:36:02,960
Now, one of those witnesses was Billy
Matthews. Is that correct?

1407
01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:07,960
Yes, but you must understand that on
any given evening, there could be
20-25 boys...

1408
01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:10,960
Yes, but you were most specific about
Billy Matthews.

1409
01:36:10,960 --> 01:36:14,640
The reason you said you recalled him
was because he was ill.

1410
01:36:14,640 --> 01:36:15,960
Yes.

1411
01:36:15,960 --> 01:36:19,160
It transpires Billy Matthews was not
at the Advice Centre that night.

1412
01:36:19,160 --> 01:36:21,160
He was in Charing Cross Hospital.

1413
01:36:21,160 --> 01:36:24,960
I'm sorry, I... I just must have
confused the evening.

1414
01:36:24,960 --> 01:36:29,160
Really? Even though you called an
ambulance for him?

1415
01:36:29,160 --> 01:36:31,960
That would have been on the evening
of the 16th.

1416
01:36:34,960 --> 01:36:36,960
On that occasion, you did leave your
name.

1417
01:36:36,960 --> 01:36:41,320
And on that occasion, you were
informed that there would be a
15-minute delay.

1418
01:36:41,320 --> 01:36:43,480
Is that not correct?

1419
01:36:51,960 --> 01:36:53,000
It's possible.

1420
01:36:53,000 --> 01:36:54,960
Oh, it's possible?

1421
01:36:54,960 --> 01:36:58,960
It's also possible that the following
evening when you called an ambulance,

1422
01:36:58,960 --> 01:37:01,960
you would already know that there was
a 15-minute delay.

1423
01:37:01,960 --> 01:37:04,960
Giving you time to leave the Advice
Centre and go to Vera's flat.

1424
01:37:04,960 --> 01:37:07,320
Did you? Did you go to Vernon
Reynolds' flat?

1425
01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:09,960
No. I did not.

1426
01:37:20,320 --> 01:37:23,960
Mr Parker-Jones, are you aware of the
existence of certain photographs

1427
01:37:23,960 --> 01:37:25,960
belonging to Mr James Jackson?

1428
01:37:30,960 --> 01:37:32,960
No comment.

1429
01:37:32,960 --> 01:37:37,800
And that in these photographs you are
pictured with the deceased, Colin
Jenkins?

1430
01:37:37,800 --> 01:37:38,960
No comment.

1431
01:37:38,960 --> 01:37:42,320
And that you are photographed in
various poses with other juveniles?

1432
01:37:42,320 --> 01:37:45,640
And that these photographs were taken
from your house in Camden?

1433
01:37:45,640 --> 01:37:47,000
No comment.

1434
01:37:47,000 --> 01:37:51,960
Oh, I think that you knew of the
existence of these photographs.

1435
01:37:51,960 --> 01:37:54,960
You knew Connie Jenkins was selling
them. No comment.

1436
01:37:54,960 --> 01:37:57,960
So you had James Jackson searching
all over London,

1437
01:37:57,960 --> 01:38:00,960
desperate to track them down,
desperate to track Connie down.

1438
01:38:00,960 --> 01:38:03,480
But you couldn't find him, could you?
No comment.

1439
01:38:03,480 --> 01:38:06,000
And then Vera came to you, as you
said, in a dreadful state.

1440
01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:08,960
Saying that the very person you were
looking for

1441
01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:14,800
was not only in her flat but was also
unconscious, alone and with those
photographs.

1442
01:38:16,960 --> 01:38:19,960
No comment.
So you said you'd arrange everything.

1443
01:38:19,960 --> 01:38:21,960
You said that you'd even call an
ambulance.

1444
01:38:21,960 --> 01:38:24,960
No comment? No comment again, Mr
Parker-Jones?

1445
01:38:25,960 --> 01:38:29,160
You've already admitted that you were
aware of the delays.

1446
01:38:29,160 --> 01:38:33,960
You used that 15 minutes, didn't you?
You ran from the Advice Centre, you
went to Vera's flat.

1447
01:38:33,960 --> 01:38:37,960
Connie wasn't dead, was he? He was
still alive. Just semiconscious.

1448
01:38:37,960 --> 01:38:41,960
So you made sure he would never be
able to tell anyone about you,

1449
01:38:41,960 --> 01:38:43,960
you and your friends, Mr
Parker-Jones.

1450
01:38:44,960 --> 01:38:48,960
It was so easy. He couldn't do
anything - couldn't fight back,
couldn't stop you -

1451
01:38:48,960 --> 01:38:51,960
as you set light to him, you left him
to burn to death.

1452
01:38:59,960 --> 01:39:01,640
No comment.

1453
01:39:08,960 --> 01:39:10,960
(Door opens)

1454
01:39:16,960 --> 01:39:19,960
Good night, Inspector Tennison.
Which is the way out?

1455
01:39:21,960 --> 01:39:27,960
Without a witness who actually saw
person or persons unknown set alight
to that flat,

1456
01:39:27,960 --> 01:39:29,960
you'll never have a case.

1457
01:39:40,960 --> 01:39:44,960
So...this blown my chances for
superintendent?

1458
01:39:44,960 --> 01:39:47,960
Oh, no. No, you'll get it.

1459
01:39:49,640 --> 01:39:51,800
No strings.

1460
01:40:20,320 --> 01:40:22,480
Jessica Smithy's back.

1461
01:40:33,960 --> 01:40:36,960
Still looking for a scoop, Miss
Smithy?

1462
01:40:36,960 --> 01:40:40,160
I'm paid to expose the truth. It's
my job.

1463
01:40:40,160 --> 01:40:42,960
Bit like yours.

1464
01:40:42,960 --> 01:40:44,960
No, your job isn't anything like
mine.

1465
01:40:46,960 --> 01:40:49,960
But it is criminal that a man like
Edward Parker-Jones

1466
01:40:49,960 --> 01:40:54,960
is allowed to gain access to young
children and all with the blessing of
the social services.

1467
01:40:54,960 --> 01:40:56,960
Files you asked for, guv.
Thank you very much.

1468
01:40:57,960 --> 01:40:59,960
Yeah.

1469
01:40:59,960 --> 01:41:03,960
Young boy called him..."the Keeper of
Souls".

1470
01:41:03,960 --> 01:41:06,960
It was his nickname.

1471
01:41:06,960 --> 01:41:09,160
Good headline, isn't it?

1472
01:41:09,160 --> 01:41:11,960
Nice turn of phrase for a sick
pervert like him.

1473
01:41:14,480 --> 01:41:15,960
Excuse me.

1474
01:41:15,960 --> 01:41:17,960
Is Parker-Jones going to be charged?

1475
01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:35,160
subtitles by Deluxe

1476
01:43:19,640 --> 01:43:21,800